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@EventModeling author, original contributor #CQRS/ES, CEO Founder @AdaptechGroup, OS: @Kubuntu interests: #FOSS #openstandards http://eventmodeling.org 

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    Adam Dymitruk  🇨🇦‏ @adymitruk Jul 21
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    Don't use the saga messaging pattern. We're deleting about 30 classes from our standard stack. Majority of patterns in "Enterprise software" and "messaging patterns" are just "Todo lists" as expressed in @EventModeling. Embrace simplicity.

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      1. Adam Dymitruk  🇨🇦‏ @adymitruk Jul 21
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        This also allows you to get rid of a lot of middleware.

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      2. dotnetninja  🇸🇪‏ @dotnetninja Jul 22
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        Replying to @adymitruk @EventModeling

        Yes if you are using it wrong, or if you don’t understand what SAGA is,especially when working with messaging. Problem:It is not easy to identify Saga. This is another explanation of saga and what it is. Think of it as aggregate and long running process.https://docs.particular.net/nservicebus/sagas/ …

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      3. Adam Dymitruk  🇨🇦‏ @adymitruk 20h20 hours ago
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        "You're using it wrong" is just fodder to sell consulting and create an artificial market for superfluous middleware. Deny its existence; it's an imposter. I don't describe a saga in the diner, it's a receipt that's used from start to finish - just another view.

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      2. Chris Lesage‏ @lesagechris Jul 21
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        Normally I would agree, Saga’s are guilty until proven innocent.. But, in integration scenario’s with legacy services/systems I found them still useful to keep track (and reacting) of happy/unhappy outcomes, so what would be the alternative?

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      3. Adam Dymitruk  🇨🇦‏ @adymitruk Jul 21
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        Replying to @lesagechris @EventModeling

        A Todo list does that.

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      2. Radek Maziarka‏ @RadekMaziarka Jul 21
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        Replying to @adymitruk @EventModeling

        Could you describe the case? In which situation you could simplify the system by removing sagas?

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      3. Adam Dymitruk  🇨🇦‏ @adymitruk Jul 21
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        Replying to @RadekMaziarka @EventModeling

        Any case. They're not needed.

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      2. red_square‏ @red_square Jul 21
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        How to express compensation in a todo?

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      3. Adam Dymitruk  🇨🇦‏ @adymitruk Jul 21
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        What are you compensating for?

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      1. Adam Dymitruk  🇨🇦‏ @adymitruk 20h20 hours ago
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        Didn't realize how much clutter the "Enterprise architects" needed to clean up from their heads - judging by the questions.

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